Comments on: Leah Klug: “Let Us Work Together” https://comingoutcovenant.com/leah-klug-let-us-work-together/ Members and friends of the Evangelical Covenant Church in favor of a more inclusive church! Wed, 25 Mar 2026 19:22:09 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Nicole Hickory https://comingoutcovenant.com/leah-klug-let-us-work-together/#comment-401 Fri, 10 Jun 2011 18:19:00 +0000 http://comingoutcovenant.com/?p=363#comment-401 Leah, thank you for this. You are gifted with words and your voice is heard. Thank you for your courage to speak out and your guidance in my life in so many ways.

Nicole H.

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By: JHong https://comingoutcovenant.com/leah-klug-let-us-work-together/#comment-392 Thu, 19 May 2011 02:57:00 +0000 http://comingoutcovenant.com/?p=363#comment-392 Leah, I heard about your story about six months ago through a Presbyterian minister in the Seattle area. When I heard your story, I found myself discouraged and troubled by the Covenant decision to pull your credential. I recently graduated from an open and affirming seminary and currently serve as a chaplain. As a chaplain I need endorsement from a denomination and would like to pursue ordination, but while I have been attending Covenant churches for over ten years, I struggled with whether I should stay with the Covenant. I have kept myself from moving forward for a couple of years now. Your story (and this whole blog in general) encourages me that there may still be hope and a reason to indeed work together. Thank you!

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By: Anonymous https://comingoutcovenant.com/leah-klug-let-us-work-together/#comment-390 Tue, 17 May 2011 22:12:00 +0000 http://comingoutcovenant.com/?p=363#comment-390 Holy Cow!  I’ve forgotten to check the website for a few weeks due to a job search, and I stumble into this amazingly well-written article.  Thank you for putting it all out there, in writing, with heart, with justice, and with courage.  I continue to learn in this process.  Well done!   How can that “resolution” continue to stand as if it is the final word for all decisions? Where do we go from here?

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By: Anonymous Covenanter https://comingoutcovenant.com/leah-klug-let-us-work-together/#comment-386 Fri, 13 May 2011 19:29:00 +0000 http://comingoutcovenant.com/?p=363#comment-386 In reply to Brita Moon Gotberg.

I have wondered the same thing.  I attend an open Covenant church.  What I have wondered in particular is what happens when an established Covenant church decides to be open and affirming?  If the pastoral staff that’s credentialed by the ECC tows the line by not publicly speaking on the matter, what are the implications.  Are they (the ECC credentialed staff) guilty by association?  The church is not controlled by the denomination.  Could they be withdrawn from fellowship within the denomination?

I think the biggest barrier that Leah ran into is the fact that it was a church plant initiated from the denominational office rather than by other efforts such as a plant being started by an established church.  Even the denomination is constrained by the resolution.  Church plants receive funding from the denomination.  Leah was credentialed by the denomination.

The sad bottom line is that the pastors (those who’s credentials are issued and maintained by the ECC) in the local churches and the leadership at the denominational level are constrained by the current policies.  There are plenty out there who disagree with the current resolutions and policies, but in order for there to be bigger change, it won’t be top down.  The control in the ECC lies in the churches, not the denomination.

This issue poses unique challenges.  You have a denomination that traditionally has agreed on the traditional core tenets of the Christian faith suddenly adopting what is being called a resolution that has far greater impact than any other resolution ever has.  Church plants can lose their status and support.  Pastors can lose their credentials.  Combine this with more and more new and younger congregations that are less familiar with the process of change.  Church leadership may be aware, but they kind of have a gag order when it comes to being public about differing views.  How do you as a covenant pastor who has a congregation of people unfamiliar with the denomination that wants to change this speak out and tell your congregation about the process and guide them in the right direction?  It’s kind of convenient that those who’d essentially be the ambassadors to understanding of these processes reach you when you have to be so on guard because you can lose your license?  You can’t even really rally behind your congregation in such an effort even if every last member wants this.  Well, you can at your own expense, and there’s the rub.

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By: Eva https://comingoutcovenant.com/leah-klug-let-us-work-together/#comment-356 Sat, 30 Apr 2011 21:25:00 +0000 http://comingoutcovenant.com/?p=363#comment-356 Leah, I moved by the way you open your heart and live by your convictions. Thank you for your courage, your faithfulness, and your witness.

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By: Rwsturdy https://comingoutcovenant.com/leah-klug-let-us-work-together/#comment-355 Fri, 29 Apr 2011 04:41:00 +0000 http://comingoutcovenant.com/?p=363#comment-355 After my first reading of your prophetic blog I was too angry to write anything. Upon reflection I came to the conclusion that I was angry with myself for taking so long to be open to the fullness of the gospel of the love of Jesus for all. My great sadness results in the blindness of the Covenant Church to be open to all. We will have “Freedom In Christ” proclaimed in our Covenant Companion when and only when ALL are invited to the Table spread by Jesus himself. Until that time our beloved Evangelical Covenant will have to insert an “exception clause” in it openness to all. I find it interesting that I was ordained a Covenant Minister even though I did not “fit” the theological mode of the time. Now I find it difficult to understand that our denomination, congregational in form, can dictate that a church may not be “open and affirming”. It seems to me to be a contradiction in terms. Leah, I am an old man. I stand up to call you BLESSED! May your number increase.

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By: Gordon J. Schultz https://comingoutcovenant.com/leah-klug-let-us-work-together/#comment-352 Thu, 28 Apr 2011 17:18:00 +0000 http://comingoutcovenant.com/?p=363#comment-352 How very sad. I left the Covenant Church quite a few years ago– the hardest most painful decision in my life to that time–as I loved it, it’s college, and especially its seminary, and it’s where most of my dearest friends were. I had gotten the impression of late that the causes that forced me out were no longer present: arbitrary uses of power, cultural and political capitulation of the Gospel to “Americanism,” overt denominational support for Richard Nixon and the war in Vietnam, enforced group-think, and cowardice of my dearest friends in the Ministerium to stand up to abuses. I was only on occasion the victim of those abuses, but I saw them regularly.

The most common excuse for abuse of power and complicity in it was “for the sake of unity.” “The Covenant is a family– you don’t do things that cause dissension and split up a family.” I am very sad to hear that Leah has been the victim of those same forces and arguments.

As I left on good terms, it has been my privelege to serve as interim and pulpit supply in Covenant churches, to teach in them and at Pilgrim Pines. But, it breaks my heart to learn of Leah’s story and to learn that while many things have changed for the good, the struggle for a truly Gospel-centered church has a long way to go.

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By: Liljegrens, John and Opal https://comingoutcovenant.com/leah-klug-let-us-work-together/#comment-351 Thu, 28 Apr 2011 03:43:00 +0000 http://comingoutcovenant.com/?p=363#comment-351 Thank you for sharing your journey, The treatment you received from ECC does not surprise us but gives us pain. We left ECC several years ago in part because of the way they reject LGBT people. We are now members of a UCC/DOC church were we walk with and worship with many people who have been rejected by conservative churches. We have found God’s love there in a new and deeper way than ever before in our lives.

Your words are powerful and we hope that in the future people in the Covenant will see the wisdom of your stand and become a denomination that accepts and respects all people.

John and Opal Liljegren

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By: Leah Klug https://comingoutcovenant.com/leah-klug-let-us-work-together/#comment-350 Thu, 28 Apr 2011 02:18:00 +0000 http://comingoutcovenant.com/?p=363#comment-350 Thanks ECC’ers and friends. I hope we are able to move from discussion to action. Again, as a congregational denomination, if we want change, we have to be willing to speak and act for change. We also need open avenues for safe dialogue so pastors can ask questions and enter into discussion without fearing penalty. How can we create that space?

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By: Karelia https://comingoutcovenant.com/leah-klug-let-us-work-together/#comment-349 Wed, 27 Apr 2011 15:42:00 +0000 http://comingoutcovenant.com/?p=363#comment-349 Great article. Thank you.

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